Monday, November 09, 2009

Dark Phoenix's Destruction

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Over at io9 they transcribed some of X2 screenwriter (and Trick'r'Treat director) Michael Dougherty's thoughts on what he and Bryan Singer would've done with the Dark Phoenix story if they'd made the third X-Men movie instead of cinematic-turdmeister Brett Ratner doing it instead.

There's also some concept art for the never-made sequences of Phoenix's destruction, like these ones seen here of San Francisco getting blitzed.


It all just adds up to a terrible reminder of how badly Jean Grey's story was handled in the end. Boo.

But what I especially liked was this call made by Dougherty on one of the other annoying aspects of Ratner's film:

"Dougherty also said he wouldn't have had Rogue take a cure for her draining mutant abilities, and felt it was the wrong message to send:

"The whole point of Rogue's character is that she is supposed to come to terms with who she is and also I don't think it's good to tell girls 'Yeah you should change yourselves so you can get a guy.'"

Who'd have ever guessed that Brett Ratner of all people might express a warped notion of feminine empowerment? I mean, he only spends every other minute of his time at the Playboy Mansion.
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8 comments:

Hugh Man said...

Couldn't be more pissed after seeing this fan art in a book I got from Comicon. All anyone would have had to do to make me happy is one telekinetic fire bird.

Joe Reid said...

I get what he's saying about Rogue, and I'm so not in the business of defending Brett Ratner (though wasn't the script in place well before Ratner signed on? Am I misremembering?), but I think Rogue taking the cure is much more of a grey area. It's not about her changing for a guy. This is a girl who can't be with anyone. To her, it really is a curse. Maybe the movies (all three of them) should have done a better job of showing why she would want to remain with her ability, beyond noble suffering. Because from what we saw, she'd have been crazy NOT to take the cure.

bubba said...

I agree with Joe here: Rogue's ability bereaves her of ALL human contact. It's true that a boy was a strong catalyst for her decision, but this isn't just about accepting something superficial like a physical attribute... this is about her rudimentary ability to connect with anyone.

Anonymous said...

X-Men 3 sucked. How many times are you gonna lift things? Boring

Anonymous said...

What makes me sad is the Brett Ratner did a better job with the X-kids than Singer did with Superman. That kills me...but Bryan was so dedicated to continuing Donner's work, when he should have started fresh. He did not have to do an origin story. Just start fresh.

Glenn Dunks said...

My beef with Ratner isn't for X-Men 3. Yes, it wasn't that good, but Bryan Singer had the choice to dump the X-Men franchise for what he perceived as the bigger fish and he failed. Anger should be aimed at Bryan Singer first and foremost.

Anonymous said...

I get what Joe's saying, but Rogue is only one aspect of the biggest problem I had with X3 (other than the criminal mishandling of, well, everyone's character).

SOMEBODY's - Ratner's or Zak Penn's or Simon Kinberg's - misogyny was on every. Goddamn. Page. of that script. The women in X3 are either clingy, whiny, bitchy or paranoid, destructive crazies. I mean, come on: "You're a guy, Bobby"? Please.

Also, the cinematography looked cheap and somehow dirty.

Agent69 said...

And wasn't Sigourney supposed to play a villainess who could control people's feelings? She would have been an ex of the professor and her emotional manipulations would have caused Dark Phoenix to surface. Just imagine Sigourney with Stewart and McKellen, being bad and kicking ass. That is the stuff wet dreams are made of.

As for Rogue, I too agree that she would have taken the cure. It's totally true to character.
My anger is directed to Fox, 'they' didn't want to wait for Singer (and they screwed up Cameron's Alien 5 plans, but that is another story).